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and paul ryan and tommy thompson. >> and what if they get e mitt romney and paul ryan and it is not tommy thompson. by that you may get elected and the polls are looking better for you but the senate doesn't go republican. it is harder is it not for even a president like romney, president romney to do something, right? >> there is no question it is harder. but i have been in washington when the presidency changed from democrat to republican under george bush and then from bill clinton to george w. bush and also when george w. bush won the second election. his relect and there is a tremendous and after the election which will be vitriolic and vicious, both political parties will come together with the idea they have to do better and there is a feeling of good will for who ever the president is and that will help us even if harry reid is in control of the u.s. senate which i hope never happens. >> hope springs eternal. of the wisconsin.from the we call would his opponent and never heard back. she is always welcome on here. and a lot more for what is at stake. we spent the better part
and paul ryan and tommy thompson. >> and what if they get e mitt romney and paul ryan and it is not tommy thompson. by that you may get elected and the polls are looking better for you but the senate doesn't go republican. it is harder is it not for even a president like romney, president romney to do something, right? >> there is no question it is harder. but i have been in washington when the presidency changed from democrat to republican under george bush and then from bill...
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big jump, 4 out of 5 polls, mitt romney and paul ryan lead. have you big poll numbers in florida and virginia, showing people in just a second. abc and cbs admits the ticket is gaining ground, post debate. nbc, no, not much of an impact at ms-nbc. >> florida, ohio and virginia, battleground states. what we see on the screen, a tight, tight, dead heat in florida and in virginia. in ohio, you still see the president hanging on to a lead. i guess you could say that romney has the trend line, but ohio is still a problem. >> another factor in all three of these polls, over 90% said the debate made no difference. 6, 7 and 7% respectively who said the debates mattered to their vote. that is, not as helpful to romney as he might have hoped. >> the debate has not as much of an impact. >> sean: i was thinking that if joe biden loses and 25 day, i am thinking that nbc news -- it's a perfect place for an unhinged, over-the-top, extreme leftist. he would be perfect over there. >> chuck todd, the political director of nbc news labeled the rasmussen poll, qu
big jump, 4 out of 5 polls, mitt romney and paul ryan lead. have you big poll numbers in florida and virginia, showing people in just a second. abc and cbs admits the ticket is gaining ground, post debate. nbc, no, not much of an impact at ms-nbc. >> florida, ohio and virginia, battleground states. what we see on the screen, a tight, tight, dead heat in florida and in virginia. in ohio, you still see the president hanging on to a lead. i guess you could say that romney has the trend line,...
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what do romney/ryan need to do at hoff stra. this is barack obama's territory. he likes the town hall meetings. i think he will feel a lot more comfortable and go on the attack? >> he does. but i think one of the reasons we saw a sort of reduced barack obama, if you will, in the last debate is because he has a tendence tow come off as arrogant and smug and petty, almost as if he can't believe someone would have the audacity to disagree with his opinion. that's what he has to avoid. i think he was toned down in denver because he was advised not to be that barack obama. don't be overly arrogant toward rim rim. now he has to find that balance, which i don't think joe biden found last night. i think saturday night live will have a great skit -- >> don't count on it. >> well, you are probably right. but he's got to be able to do that. he has to be able to take the bite, like joe biden did -- joe biden took the fight to paul ryan. romney has to do exactly what he did in denver. he has to be the person he is. mitt romney we saw in the primary, the one who defined himse
what do romney/ryan need to do at hoff stra. this is barack obama's territory. he likes the town hall meetings. i think he will feel a lot more comfortable and go on the attack? >> he does. but i think one of the reasons we saw a sort of reduced barack obama, if you will, in the last debate is because he has a tendence tow come off as arrogant and smug and petty, almost as if he can't believe someone would have the audacity to disagree with his opinion. that's what he has to avoid. i...
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romney is going to have to do a little better than ryan did because ryan almost tack it a little too easily. jason? >> i agree. i think one of the problems with ryan's performance was allowing biden to get away with a lot of what you want to do, particularly on foreign policy, is similar to what we are doing. he has to differentiate themselves. they have to differentiates themselves on all these things from foreign policy to the domestic policy. but one of the weaknesses of the liar claim, i don't think it works well with the general public. all politicians they think stretch the truth. i don't know it's effective en those grounds alone. >> they aren't trying to repute romney, they are trying to ruin romney and they have been trying to do that from the beginning. i kind of degree with you, paul. >> think next week mitt romney has to call barack obama out in this tactic and put it in his face and tell the american people exactly what is going on here. >> let's look at a new mitt romney ad that is new on the jobs and economy. >> look at the evidence of the last four years. we have 23 m
romney is going to have to do a little better than ryan did because ryan almost tack it a little too easily. jason? >> i agree. i think one of the problems with ryan's performance was allowing biden to get away with a lot of what you want to do, particularly on foreign policy, is similar to what we are doing. he has to differentiate themselves. they have to differentiates themselves on all these things from foreign policy to the domestic policy. but one of the weaknesses of the liar...
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the romney-ryan ticket has been spending more time in ohio than in the country. here is a little bit from governor romney at his last event. thehis president on friday the administration was to put out hasanswer to the question chas china manipulated their currency or not. they were supposed to designate that on friday. they said we will not do that. we will wait until after the election to do that. seven times so far they passed the buck on that. i'm not going to pass that off. on day one i will label china a currency manipulator and get serious about making sure that people don't cheat when it comes to trade. >> reporter: the obama administration asserted that doing such tough crackdowns on china could lead to a trade war of the fastest growing economy in the word and they said that mr. romney hasn't been entirely pure when it comes to doing business with china himself in his private life and private business experience. the romney campaign says it is all excuses and time for the u.s. government to stop putting up with china's trade practices and currency manip
the romney-ryan ticket has been spending more time in ohio than in the country. here is a little bit from governor romney at his last event. thehis president on friday the administration was to put out hasanswer to the question chas china manipulated their currency or not. they were supposed to designate that on friday. they said we will not do that. we will wait until after the election to do that. seven times so far they passed the buck on that. i'm not going to pass that off. on day one i...
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in wisconsin that is where paul ryan is from, mitt romney's running mate. that is only a 2-point race in wisconsin. you have to remember, this is state where back in june there was recall election against scott walker. he won the race. he demoralized the democrats. a lot of activists were saying because president obama didn't come strong in favor of the democratic candidate, it demoralized a lot of democrats there. turnout could be very important. if the democratic turnout is not high, you might see mitt romney win that state. >> patti ann: meanwhile, florida where he is romney is enjoying a 2% advantage. we have david plouffe saying, we are going to get the senior citizens and hispanics. we are going to get florida? >> it's a crucial state for romney to win, one of two of most crucial states, florida and ohio. there is another poll out, tampa bay times poll that shows romney is up by 7. obama campaign disputes the poll that the hispanic voters are not as close as that poll shows. that is pretty significant lead in florida with rom up 7. he certainly as the
in wisconsin that is where paul ryan is from, mitt romney's running mate. that is only a 2-point race in wisconsin. you have to remember, this is state where back in june there was recall election against scott walker. he won the race. he demoralized the democrats. a lot of activists were saying because president obama didn't come strong in favor of the democratic candidate, it demoralized a lot of democrats there. turnout could be very important. if the democratic turnout is not high, you...
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at each event today, mitt romney and paul ryan have been trying to thump mr. obama for his absence of leadership on this, they say. here is a sampling from earlier today at mr. romney's convenient in portsmouth, ohio. >> over the past several years, the president failed to call china a currency manipulator. he had the occasion on friday to come out with that official designation. you know what they said? we're not going to make any determination until after the election. let me tell you, on day one of my administration, i will label china a currency manipulator. >> here in ohio, that is a particularly potent attack because the manufacturing base had taken such a hit over the past few years, both in the obama economy and before. paul ryan was campaigning today in youngtown, ohio. he made the point that mr. obama has had a number of chances to take steps to crack down on china and passed on them. watch. >> the administration had their eighth chance to label china a currency manipulator. it's due in two days. they say they're going to push this deadline off until
at each event today, mitt romney and paul ryan have been trying to thump mr. obama for his absence of leadership on this, they say. here is a sampling from earlier today at mr. romney's convenient in portsmouth, ohio. >> over the past several years, the president failed to call china a currency manipulator. he had the occasion on friday to come out with that official designation. you know what they said? we're not going to make any determination until after the election. let me tell you,...
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romney will be more aggressive. >> he will have to be more aggressive than paul ryan. >> yeah. >> two things. i think you will see obama being more aggressive but without the smirking and without -- >> and more dangerous potentially. >> and with the difficulty of the next debate. when ordinary people are asking the question, it's hard to do that and turn to your opponent and attack. >> one of the problems the obama campaign has had had is before denver they were careful not to have the president be aggressive in his attacks because it would have a knock on his numbers. you see that now. there's a lot of independent who are still interested in voting for him because he likes him. if he's very mean and nasty the way biden was this week, that could hurt him more, especially among sub groups like women. >> when we come back, the congressional hearing on libya seeds new light on what happened before and during and after the attack and raises new questions about the administration's response. >> we will get to the bottom of it, and wherever the facts lead us, wherever they lead us, we will
romney will be more aggressive. >> he will have to be more aggressive than paul ryan. >> yeah. >> two things. i think you will see obama being more aggressive but without the smirking and without -- >> and more dangerous potentially. >> and with the difficulty of the next debate. when ordinary people are asking the question, it's hard to do that and turn to your opponent and attack. >> one of the problems the obama campaign has had had is before denver they...
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and ryan made it so. does that seem to you that she is saying that the lives of these four brave americans is not important? >> i hear that, and i also hear that, well, it wouldn't be an issue if we hadn't gotten caught. >> what more do you on your commit that's investigating this whole affair, what more do you want to know? >> my number one concern is are there any other embassies or u.s. diplomatic officials out there that are in a dangerous position that we are not providing all necessary protection for? it's a tragedy that we have lost these lives, but it would be even worse if this list of four grew to a list of 8 or more. >> the congressman on the committee that's investigating this. thank you for taking the time. i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> sobering responses and information. well, mortgage rates also not sobering. in fact, they are at record lows. should you take advantage of it? is it really the best time to refinance? how do you get the most bank for your buck? we will tell you that stra
and ryan made it so. does that seem to you that she is saying that the lives of these four brave americans is not important? >> i hear that, and i also hear that, well, it wouldn't be an issue if we hadn't gotten caught. >> what more do you on your commit that's investigating this whole affair, what more do you want to know? >> my number one concern is are there any other embassies or u.s. diplomatic officials out there that are in a dangerous position that we are not...
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paul ryan called him out for that last night. >> romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> i always say what i mean. >> brian: well, the crowd loved it. joe smiled. but joe do you always say what you mean? for example. >> thank you, dr. pepper, and thank you chancellor -- dr. paper. unchain wall street. they are going to put y'all back in chains. how they can justify raising taxes in the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> i always say what i mean. >> brian: that was a moment that will stand out. do you think he meant to say what he meant to say? >> dana: the audience started laughing before joe biden did, because i think biden was thinking about his next answer and realized it was funny and should laugh about it. i think he has a good sense of humor. but i think it would have been better for him to say nice one or something like that. there are a lo
paul ryan called him out for that last night. >> romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> i always say what i mean. >> brian: well, the crowd loved it. joe smiled. but joe do you always say what you mean? for example. >> thank you, dr. pepper, and thank you chancellor -- dr. paper....
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i think he scared them more than the policies of mitt romney and congressman ryan. i mean it was incredible display. people are still talking 'about it on this saturday morning. >> how did he scare people. >> he looked unhinged. some would call inappropriate affect. i had a register the nurse tweet me yesterday. she said if i saw that i would have called the m.d. and started increasing the ms. that's meds. what happened? it's not a matter being discourteous and rude. we are used to that it's a matter of temperament. it's a matter of fitness for office. whether you are a democrat, republic or independent do you want? >> on the substance he was very solid. >> the substance he was solidly wrong. he made up facts. he lied about. he said i didn't vote for afghanistan and iraq wars. he did. he said oh, the obama administration doesn't discriminate against catholic institutions. they do. and the bishops condemned them. oh, we north raising taxes for people over 200,000 -- under $200,000, we are raising them at the $200,000 level there are a lot of misstatements of fact. >>
i think he scared them more than the policies of mitt romney and congressman ryan. i mean it was incredible display. people are still talking 'about it on this saturday morning. >> how did he scare people. >> he looked unhinged. some would call inappropriate affect. i had a register the nurse tweet me yesterday. she said if i saw that i would have called the m.d. and started increasing the ms. that's meds. what happened? it's not a matter being discourteous and rude. we are used to...
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however, romney has the advantage. he can point to the obama administration leg diplomats get killed. he can say, look, what obama is doing schblt working very well. in terms of simply judging the incumbent whether successful or not, that is good thing for the challenger to say. >> jon: for instance in the denver debate when he said something about israel, one of our strongest allies in that part of the world. who would be stronger than israel? >> at the moment you have a problem for the republicans because on the ground, people will tell you that intelligence cooperation between israel and the united states is the strongest and best it's ever been. president has a different view from benjamin netanyahu in american security interests in the region and he doesn't think in stopping and being capable of getting a bomb is the standard he wants to adopt. romney is not saying anything any different. >> jon: next on news watch, which candidates better half is getting better treatment from the press. >>> ann romney baking her
however, romney has the advantage. he can point to the obama administration leg diplomats get killed. he can say, look, what obama is doing schblt working very well. in terms of simply judging the incumbent whether successful or not, that is good thing for the challenger to say. >> jon: for instance in the denver debate when he said something about israel, one of our strongest allies in that part of the world. who would be stronger than israel? >> at the moment you have a problem...